Monday, February 16, 2009

"Millennial Dreaming" Lyrics

To the music California Dreamin' , 1965, The Mamas and the Papas


All the signs are here (signs are here)
And we want it very clear (want it clear)
We’ve been thinking for a while (thinking for a while)
On a Saturday (on a warm Sunday).
We’ll be sick no more (we’ll be sick no more)
If we were in heav’n (if we were in heav’n)
Millennial dreaming on such a Sabbath day.

Step into the church I pass along the way
Well I got down on my knees (got down on my knees)
And I began to pray (I began to pray)
You know whether I'm pre- post- disp- or amil
He knows I’m going away (I’m going away).
Millennial dreaming on such a Sabbath day.


Spoken during music
Whether Ladd or Lindsey, Kim or Gentry
The Lord will make His glorious entry.
John says so in his Revelations
To gather His elect from all the nations.
The Bridegroom is coming—let’s get ready!
Tell everybody—let’s get ready!
At any moment—let’s get ready!
Tell everybody—let’s get ready!


All the signs are here (signs are here)
And we want it clear (want it clear)
We’ve been thinking for a while (thinking for a while)
On a Saturday (on a warm Sunday).
If He doesn’t tell us (if He doesn’t tell us)
We could leave today (we could leave today).
Millennial dreaming on such a Sabbath day.
Millennial dreaming on such a Sabbath day.
Millennial dreaming on such a Sabbath day.



Lyrics by Carol Noren Johnson

Sunday, February 8, 2009

An Historical Premillennialist Takes Issue With Pretribulational Dispensationalism

Dr. George Eldon Ladd (1911-1982)

Why does George Ladd, foremost Historical Premillennialist of the last century, dismiss Dispensationalism? In "The Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views" he says that Dispensationalists expect the millennium to be all about the Davidic kingdom with all its sacrifices; then he notes that this is impossible because of Hebrews 8 which notes that the old covenant is obsolete—we have a new covenant.

Ladd maintains that Dispensational Premillennialism was an idea that was hatched N. J. Darby and others in the 19th century. Meetings and Bible conferences were held in the early 1800s and at one of these C. I. Scofield hatched the idea for his reference Bible. The Rapture was added before the tribulation—hence pretribulationalism.

Historical Premillennialist Ladd then states in "The Blessed Hope": “We can find no trace of pretribulationism in the early church; and no modern pretribulationist has successfully proved that this particular doctrine was held by any of the church fathers or students of the Word before the nineteenth century.” (p. 31) Christ is to come after the tribulation according to Ladd who uses Scripture to prove his case. A pretribulation rapture is “not supported by any affirmations in the Word of God” (p. 88) Ladd notes that by defining the blessed hope “in terms of escape from suffering rather than union with Christ [one] may be guilty of the positive danger of leaving the Church unprepared for tribulation when Antichrist appears. . . . Questions of theology are not decided by our desires or dislikes; they are decided by appeal to the Word of God. ” (p. 164)